Discussion for Episode 12: Self Esteem

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Post by Guest » Aug 24th 2003, 12:35 pm

[quote="Emeralduk"]This will be my last post on an episode for today, to space apart my many new thoughts. :Fade-color


Jordan doesn’t want Angela colliding with his other life (his musical life?). They are two separate things and he doesn’t want people to know about her. He doesn't want people knowing that he has a sensitive side, that is not all about being tough and cool around his friends - that he does in fact, have emotions, even if he doesn’t always show them to Angela herself.

Jordan doesn't want his friends to know about her cos' they think she's wierd(probably because she's god in school,doesn't make trouble,she doesn't belong in their social circle which involves drinking,drugging,scre-
wing).If he was making out with Rayanne,there wouldn't be a problem because she's the type of girl who"he can just do it with and bragg to his budds".But a girl like Angela,girl with substance and emotional depth,she's just wierd and inappropriate to be seen with.Because in highschool you always have to stick to your own kind.God forbid,you socialize and get close to someone who's a bit different than you.

Oh and I don't think his musical life has anything to do with.It's just the fact that he mostly hangs out with losers and he is to embarassed and to scared to jump out of his "too cool to care" mode,IMHO.

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Post by Hunee » Oct 22nd 2003, 10:52 pm

Well it is so obvious that the final scene is everyones favorite scene and it is mine to... I think the scene is just so cute when he looks over at her and has to take a deep breath before he goes over... and then grabs her hand... :cry:

when katempski says to rickie nobody should hate who they are I think that was such a perfect fit not only for rickie but just for everbody in general... Jordan should not hate that he like Angela... Angela should not hate herself because of Jordan being a jerk... Abby should not hate herself for doing well in class... Rickie should not hate his name or who he is... the sentiment of this episode is really special!!! and who is shane calling weird!!! he is so wrapped up in Jordans life that he needs one of his own and he should really stop wearing a trench coat...
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Post by Guest » Oct 24th 2003, 3:05 pm

Hunee wrote;
And who is shane calling weird!!! he is so wrapped up in Jordans life that he needs one of his own and he should really stop wearing a trench coat...
I hear ya.I hate that guy.

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Post by Gilly » Apr 1st 2005, 3:59 am

Megs wrote:
TomSpeed wrote:
What does Jordan tap into his mouth (right before Shane talks to him about Buffalo Tom)? At first I thought they were breath mints, but he made such a terrible face - the kind little kids make when they are forced to take medicine - that it made me wonder.
It looks like breath spray or drops, like Binaca. You must have fresh and clean breath for the boiler room. The spray is concentrated and has a strong taste, but it is powerful. It is also quicker acting than mints. Jordan, who is man about town, probably doesn't leave home without it.
I agree. I always thought that it was Binaca.
even though this discussion is super old I had to say that they are called Icy Drops and they are a liquid (like Binaca) that you drop into your mouth and it freshens your breath. That scene always makes me laugh; when I was in junior high we used to use Icy Drops to freshen our breath before making out.

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Post by svenkid » Sep 17th 2006, 4:27 pm

great episode.
One thing I didnt see mentioned was the whole holding hands thing.

we learn that it was a thing for sharon and kyle, rayanne is perplexed by it's meaning and buffalo tom sings about it in their first song and of course the last scene where angela and jordan holdhands and walk away.
the episode so-called angels, does it to me every time!

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Post by kam_mui » Oct 30th 2006, 12:42 am

Hi everyone, i'm a new comer here. :)

I watched this episode yesterday (recorded that when i was first boardcast in Hong Kong), i still love it a whole lot after all these years!!! I like the whole episode, especially the last part in the hallway... it was just soooo touching!

btw, why everyone hates shane? i found him quite cute, dont know why. :-P

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Post by estherlo » Oct 30th 2006, 8:10 am

hi, kam_mui

I guess you saw it from TVB Pearl, right? So did I. And this episode is one of my favorite, though I don't care much about Shane. But every charater seems so cute in it.

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Post by kam_mui » Oct 30th 2006, 9:13 pm

estherlo wrote:hi, kam_mui

I guess you saw it from TVB Pearl, right? So did I. And this episode is one of my favorite, though I don't care much about Shane. But every charater seems so cute in it.
yes yes ... TVB Pearl!!! sooo long ago... :)
not many HKer ever noticed about this drama... please feel free to add my msn so that we can chat more. :P

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Post by estherlo » Nov 4th 2006, 10:16 am

kam_mui: Actually I'm from mainland and sorry, i don't use msn much :lol: It's true that few people in our country have noticed this show and i found nobody to talk on the subject - what a shame! Do come here a lot and share your opinions with friends here. You'll find they are all very kind. And, if you happen to be a qq user, you can search my ID 179887782. I'll love to have you as my friend. :-P

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