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starbug · Post by **starbug** » Jan 27th 2005, 6:02 am

Kristin wrote:But at least my footprint is like 15 less than the average person in the US (where I live).

Yeah, I wondered if they worked this out for different countries. The average in the UK is 5.3 apparently...

Nostradamus wrote:Actually, if everyone lived like me, the average human life expectancy and quality would be much higher. Advances in genetically modified food and industrial production will more than compensate for the increased consumption. Of course, privately funded space exploration will eventually make the terraforming and colonization of other planets feasible, so that's no big deal either. I'm just sayin...

As I knew you would.......

those quizzes are bound to be overly hippy. speaks the girl who quakes with guilt every time she sets foot in the local health food shop because she has a tendency to average 4 international flights per year.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Jan 27th 2005, 3:59 pm

CATEGORY GLOBAL HECTARES

FOOD 1.8

MOBILITY 0

SHELTER 1.6

GOODS/SERVICES 1.2

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 4.6

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 8.8 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.6 PLANETS

hmmm seeems I could be doing much better.

grim4746 · Post by **grim4746** » Jan 28th 2005, 2:51 am

I don't get this. I have a footprint of 4 and we need 2.2 planets for everyone to live like I do but Kristin's is 9 and needs 2.1 planets to for everyone to live like she does?!

I tried changing my answers to see what I could do to improve and apparently if I made the two small changes of becoming vegan and eating mostly local food then everyone could live like me and we'd only need this planet.

fnordboy · Post by **fnordboy** » Jan 28th 2005, 3:04 am

FOOD 6.9
MOBILITY 2.5
SHELTER 4
GOODS/SERVICES 5.9
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 19

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 4.3 PLANETS.

Do I win a prize?

My solution, get rid of some people on this planet.

starbug · Post by **starbug** » Jan 28th 2005, 5:53 am

fnordboy wrote: My solution, get rid of some people on this planet.

Heh

I can think of a few nominees!

SanDeE* · Post by SanDeE* » Jan 28th 2005, 2:09 pm

grim4746 wrote:I don't get this. I have a footprint of 4 and we need 2.2 planets for everyone to live like I do but Kristin's is 9 and needs 2.1 planets to for everyone to live like she does?!

I'm in the US and you are in Canada... is that the difference? The avg. hecter-thing(?) for the US is 24. What's the avg. for Canada? Probably much less. So we could be about equal.

9:24 = 4: ?

Nostradamus · Post by **Nostradamus** » Jan 30th 2005, 7:55 pm

Big sperm race is staged on German reality TV

Post by **Sascha** » Jan 31st 2005, 2:12 pm

Another one from Germany:
"If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits"

It would be funny if it weren't true.

Nothingman · Post by **Nothingman** » Jan 31st 2005, 2:15 pm

I know it's in Germany so maybe child support isn't such a issue, but what happens if the egg is fertilized? Not that I'd enter, but if I was racing, I'd be hoping I had the slowest sperm on record. Super sperm would be the last thing I'd want to be good at.

SanDeE* · Post by SanDeE* » Jan 31st 2005, 5:29 pm

Nostradamus wrote:Big sperm race is staged on German reality TV

Are people seriously going to watch this? And I'm with Nothingman here - what happens to the egg when if it gets fertilized? Too weird for me. It's appalling, actually.

starbug · Post by **starbug** » Feb 1st 2005, 9:38 am

Sascha (sab) wrote:Another one from Germany:
"If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits"

It would be funny if it weren't true.

That's horrifying! what's worse is that the government obviously thought about it and made a positive decision to do it. I could understand (maybe) if it were one of those jobs that kind of fell through the net in consideration and then a swift change in the law was made and recompense made to any people who'd actually been forced to do this.

I don't think it will last. Someone will take it to the ECHR under Art 3 (inhuman and degrading treatment), Art 8 (respect for private and family life) and probably win on both of those and an Art 14 (discrimination - although this depends on what the proportion of women vs men is in relation to prostitutes is in germany) claim. Art 3 will be the one that would swing it I would think, since it's non-derogable under any circumstances. It's definitely inhuman and degrading treatment if you're forced into prostitution - I'd be amazed if this lasts more than a year.

starbug · Post by **starbug** » Feb 1st 2005, 9:41 am

Kristin wrote:
Nostradamus wrote:Big sperm race is staged on German reality TV
Are people seriously going to watch this? And I'm with Nothingman here - what happens to the egg when if it gets fertilized? Too weird for me. It's appalling, actually.

I don't think there's an actual egg involved; instead they are using some kind of synthetic chemical 'lure' for the sperm, so they think there's an egg.

It is pretty low though. Ick.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Feb 1st 2005, 6:48 pm

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grim4746 · Post by **grim4746** » Feb 2nd 2005, 1:58 pm

I agree starbug, it's scary. IMO the German gov't has scared the world enough, do they really need to be forcing their citizens into the sex trade? Are we going to see women disfiguring themselves to avoid being raped by the state? It does present a good argument for other courntries not to legalize prostitution.

grim4746 · Post by **grim4746** » Feb 2nd 2005, 2:09 pm

Kristin wrote:
grim4746 wrote:I don't get this. I have a footprint of 4 and we need 2.2 planets for everyone to live like I do but Kristin's is 9 and needs 2.1 planets to for everyone to live like she does?!
I'm in the US and you are in Canada... is that the difference? The avg. hecter-thing(?) for the US is 24. What's the avg. for Canada? Probably much less. So we could be about equal.

9:24 = 4: ?

Huh, the average ecological footprint in Canada is 8.8 global hectares per person. I'm sure it's just some simple math thing but it still makes no sense to me. Thanks for trying to help me out.

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