"Early December" Is Arriving, Anyone Have Their Ho

[andrewgd]

So supposedly "end-game" is arriving for shipping everything out, lunchbox, bonus-dvd, t-shirts, et-al. Is anyone hopeful they will see them this month, as was promised?

Martin Pierre, where is this info that was to be given this week about the extras?

I know I shouldn't, but I still find it amazing that the extras were not done sooner. They had twice the amount of money from the sales, and they were told by BMG that they would ship on Sept. 17th. The extras should have been done for that date. There's really no reason at all that they aren't done.

I think that is the biggest clue that AU has been stealing money, and using it for other ventures other than the dvds. I seem to recall an empty warehouse that Ross bought that "is sucking money faster than we realized, and continues to do so until the end of the lease sometime in February".

Oh well, one hell of a rollercoaster, but the ride is almost getting fun. The longer this goes, the more will be revealed, and it should end up with RR is jail.

[Pedro]

I'm not going to be PC about this, and all the bleeding heart liberals can scoff at my sentiments here, but i've been robbed, deceived and made a fool of.

If all of this has been one long,unfortunate series of mishaps which have reflected badly on Ross, then that's a shame and I will remain angry but wish him no consequences.

However, f he has deliberately set this up to steal, lie and misguide then I want him in jail.

Plain and simple.

[so-called customer]

I think the reality of the situation is that at best you will get a lunchbox and a bonus disc, and nothing more. Ross has made a bunch of empty promises he can't keep. If his company doesn't have enough money to process the hundreds of cancellations they've gotten, expecting him to come up with more tangible goods is unrealistic. If he wants to keep his ass out of jail, he will deliver the bare minimum, but I suspect that by shipping the just the discs, he already has.

If he were going to deliver the additional bonus items, would he not have included a gift certificate with the boxes at the very least? I think all this talk of additional incentives were lies, since outside this board they have NEVER been mentioned. They had a perfect opportunityy when they sent out their cancellation email to try to officially entice people back, but they didn't mention anything.

Be happy you got your discs, but don't be surprised if you get nothing else.

[pgh kenny]

To answer the question in the subject line... no, despite the arrival of December, I have not received my Ho. :D

[fnordboy]

If thats what you call not being PC... watch out world

btw your post makes no sense.

I'm not going to be PC about this, and all the bleeding heart liberals can scoff at my sentiments here, but i've been robbed, deceived and made a fool of.

If all of this has been one long,unfortunate series of mishaps which have reflected badly on Ross, then that's a shame and I will remain angry but wish him no consequences.

However, f he has deliberately set this up to steal, lie and misguide then I want him in jail.

Plain and simple.

[Pedro]

It's quite simple - if the events surrounding the set have all been a long run of bad luck, merely making Ross look bad, then I won't wish him any crap (my optymistic side)

Or

If this is what we are all fearing - a scam whereby he has been DELIBERATELY overcharging people and DELIBERATELY not paying them back, then I want him in jail.

Get it?

[Natasha (candygirl)]

To answer the question in the subject line... no, despite the arrival of December, I have not received my Ho.

Ha ha - I haven't received my ho either!

I bet Ross is hogging all the hos.

[Natasha (candygirl)]

It's quite simple - if the events surrounding the set have all been a long run of bad luck, merely making Ross look bad, then I won't wish him any crap (my optymistic side)

Or

If this is what we are all fearing - a scam whereby he has been DELIBERATELY overcharging people and DELIBERATELY not paying them back, then I want him in jail.

Get it?

I don't agree - even if AU has experienced "a run of bad luck," that is NO excuse for keeping customers uninformed and cleaning out some people's bank accounts. Not everyone here is an adult with a full time job - $100 is a lot to students, and even to some adults with full time jobs. Refusing to refund unauthorized charges is not a run of bad luck - it's criminal.

As far as I am concerned the only bad luck AU ran into was the musical clearance for the seven episodes that were not previously released and the cast interviews that fell through. Everything else was their own fault - NOT paying for the lunchboxes, NOT paying BMG, NOT obtaining proper clearance/NOT paying for bonus footage, and NOT maintaining the set as exclusive. All those things were well within their control, so any excuses they give for not having the lunchbox and bonus disc are just that - EXCUSES. Even with the music clearance issues, Jason sent back the check discs months ago, so there is no excuse for any AU customers not to have their sets by now. This crap about the "second wave" and issues with international shipping are totally their fault. And obviously they know this since they aren't answering their phones anymore.

Whatever bad luck a business encounters, they still have a responsibility to inform their customers about unreasonable delays and to get merchandise (which was paid for months in advance) shipped out. Whether AU had an evil intent behind their actions or if it was a case of one bad thing after another, the bottom line is that they have been unethical, dishonest, and deceitful. Their actions speak louder than their intents, whatever those intents may be.

[andrewgd]

To answer the question in the subject line... no, despite the arrival of December, I have not received my Ho.

When I posted the subject, I didn't notice that it cut off the rest of:

"Does anyone have thier HOPES UP?"

It let me enter it in the subject line box, but apparently the cutoff in the box is different than the cutoff on the display.

Sorry if there was any confusion

Besides, with all the "promises" RR was throwing around, I'm sure there may have been a 'ho' involved somewhere. Maybe that's where the money went! (I'm soo kidding...)

[Pedro]

Ha ha ha!

When I read the title for the thread, I just assumed that 'Ho' was some American euphemsim for stuff or something...I dont know...anyway, made me laugh

By the way Candygirl, I totally agree with your sentiments. I've stated several times on here that AU have been awful with their customers, including myself who has still not received the set.

I have only recently graduated from Uni, and I only work part time, so I completely understand how expensive paying for something you don't receive is. I too am skint, but I was just trying to be rational. Sure it is incredibly likely that this is one big screw up and AU have lied and been ripping us all of with their fraudulent acts, but at the same time they've blagged us with excuses so maybe its not ALL their fault (but I know it mostly is)

I'm just saying that if , by any chance, AU have had a run of bad luck because of their own incompetence and stupidity (i.e sending out emails that dont all get sent by the server, or that they did THINK they paid BMG when in fact they didnt, and their accounting system did accidentally overcharge people and they are in the process of sorting it out) then they are thick and have had bad luck as well as creating their own crap by not providing any customer service with it, BUT ....

If this was all planned then it wasn't their stupidity - it's because they are criminals (a theory I unfortunately assume to be true)

Part of me is wanting to believe their excuses I suppose

[lance]

I'm not going to be PC about this, and all the bleeding heart liberals can scoff at my sentiments here, but i've been robbed, deceived and made a fool of.

If all of this has been one long,unfortunate series of mishaps which have reflected badly on Ross, then that's a shame and I will remain angry but wish him no consequences.

However, f he has deliberately set this up to steal, lie and misguide then I want him in jail.

Plain and simple.

Pedro,

Somewhat confused here by your intent. I understand your anger at the whole AU fiasco and I am not going to attempt to steal your thunder here but what do you mean? Do you mean that "bleeding-heart liberals" back Ross and AU and are happy that you, myself and others got ripped off? Do suspect those with a liberal, left of political center bent would wish to coddle Ross/AU further? Or are you just letting off some steam and "bleeding heart liberals" just sort of snuck its way into your rant?

Very curious,

Lance Man

[Pedro]

Probably the latter, but at the same time my use of the term 'bleeding heart liberals' is for those who would frown on my suggestion that I want Ross in jail because it would be 'too harsh a comment'. I do want him in jail if his actions were deliberately fraudulent, and im not afraid to say it.

No, I was not suggesting that people who lean politically to the left would support the actions by AU - of course not - why would someone's political preference make them more likely to support criminal behaviour or poor customer service?

I used it to make a point to those waiting to have a go at me for being harsh.

I spoke my mind and I was frank about it - I want him in jail, and my use of the term was to encompass those who were ready and waiting to argue their point that my opinins are too extreme and that he doesnt deserve that.
If people think my opinions are OTT or extreme for wanting him in jail, then their view on this is more liberal than mine, and those who want to shoot me down in flames for it and think I should lighten up and be more compassionate are those I consider to come under the term 'bleeding herat liberal' - in this instance.

Is that ok with you? Im sure you'll pick this post to bits aswell.

[Jason R]

In defense of Pedro, I have known people who are opposed to incarceration of anybody for anything. They are often either extremely left wing or libertarian).

Probably the latter, but at the same time my use of the term 'bleeding heart liberals' is for those who would frown on my suggestion that I want Ross in jail because it would be 'too harsh a comment'. I do want him in jail if his actions were deliberately fraudulent, and im not afraid to say it.

No, I was not suggesting that people who lean politically to the left would support the actions by AU - of course not - why would someone's political preference make them more likely to support criminal behaviour or poor customer service?

I used it to make a point to those waiting to have a go at me for being harsh.

I spoke my mind and I was frank about it - I want him in jail, and my use of the term was to encompass those who were ready and waiting to argue their point that my opinins are too extreme and that he doesnt deserve that.
If people think my opinions are OTT or extreme for wanting him in jail, then their view on this is more liberal than mine, and those who want to shoot me down in flames for it and think I should lighten up and be more compassionate are those I consider to come under the term 'bleeding herat liberal' - in this instance.

Is that ok with you? Im sure you'll pick this post to bits aswell.

[lance]

Probably the latter, but at the same time my use of the term 'bleeding heart liberals' is for those who would frown on my suggestion that I want Ross in jail because it would be 'too harsh a comment'. I do want him in jail if his actions were deliberately fraudulent, and im not afraid to say it.

No, I was not suggesting that people who lean politically to the left would support the actions by AU - of course not - why would someone's political preference make them more likely to support criminal behaviour or poor customer service?

I used it to make a point to those waiting to have a go at me for being harsh.

I spoke my mind and I was frank about it - I want him in jail, and my use of the term was to encompass those who were ready and waiting to argue their point that my opinins are too extreme and that he doesnt deserve that.
If people think my opinions are OTT or extreme for wanting him in jail, then their view on this is more liberal than mine, and those who want to shoot me down in flames for it and think I should lighten up and be more compassionate are those I consider to come under the term 'bleeding herat liberal' - in this instance.

Is that ok with you? Im sure you'll pick this post to bits aswell.

Pedro,

Chill dude, chill. You assume a lot. I am not going to pick apart your post at all. I agree with you, Ross should do some serious time for all that he has done. I think you stated my point exactly when you said that one's political opinions are not necessarily an indicator as to one's view of Ross.

As a liberal person I support you in you quest to see Ross "brought to justice" if such a thing is possible. I was just curious as to you choice of words, that's it.

Continued best,

Lance Man

[Natasha (candygirl)]

I'm just saying that if , by any chance, AU have had a run of bad luck because of their own incompetence and stupidity (i.e sending out emails that dont all get sent by the server, or that they did THINK they paid BMG when in fact they didnt, and their accounting system did accidentally overcharge people and they are in the process of sorting it out) then they are thick and have had bad luck as well as creating their own crap by not providing any customer service with it, BUT ....

If this was all planned then it wasn't their stupidity - it's because they are criminals (a theory I unfortunately assume to be true)

Part of me is wanting to believe their excuses I suppose

I know - even after all that AU has done, it somehow makes it seems worse if it was all deliberately planned. But like I said, intent (or lack thereof) does not change their actions. Just like running someone over in your car on purpose is a crime, accidentally hitting someone with your car is still a crime. Different degrees of bad, but still bad. AU needs to take responsibility for their actions and admit they have screwed a couple thousand people. Saying it was a mistake and they are sorry does not put money back in the bank. They need to refund all the money they have STOLEN, send out the lunchbox and bonus disc, and make sure everyone gets the extra crap they promised us. I'm not saying that I want a t-shirt and gift certificate but that jackass promised us stuff and in light of all we have put up with, the least he can do is follow through (although that doesn't seem to be one of this strong suits).