Why do we keep excusing Jason?

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Why do we keep excusing Jason?

Post by LFonseca » Oct 14th 2002, 9:40 pm

I'm sorry but I'm sick and tired of reading all through this mess and seeing Jason get out of this as a Saint.

Guess what, he's not.

Way, way, way back when, just a few days after we heard that "because credit card authorizations couldn't be kept for more than x days" I warned everyone in this very forum (or it's previous incarnation any way) that this was 100% crap. There was no reason whatsoever for a full payment to have to be made in advance, except if they needed *OUR MONEY* to fund this mess, and should that be the case they should come foward and be honest about it.

Back then I became the bad guy instantly, I wasn't seeing the big plan, they needed to have our money because they were affraid people might cancel their (back then) still "exclusive" release and have them loose money. And yes, I'm sure as an ex-worker on BMG you also didn't know about the little "everyone else can get it detail", but keep knowing everything about meetings held and such. Yeah right. You made this happen and forgot that little detail? Basically, we had to pay in advance because they were affraid they might loose money with this. Right!

I'm sorry I didn't keep the emails with Jason, but basically his point was "don't agree, tough luck, order later and loose the bonuses. Even if my points are bullshit."

Think about it. You ask for 20% of a product value 5 months in advance of expected release as a downpayment. So far so good. I think $20 is reason enough for a person to keep wanting to buy. If you need the rest either a), you need the money to make it happen, or b) you want to run away with the stash.

So why did they charge us the rest? Well, the only obvious explanation is that the reason they were giving was crap, just like I said back then, and that they needed the money to do the set - something they should have been honest about from the beginning.

So yes, mr. Jason, I didn't give up on this piece of crap back then because you said it was 100% secure, when I warned you it stank in many more ways than just one. Even if you are not legally responsible, you most certainly are in all moral aspects.

And if I ever see that SOB Mr Ross Reject I'll make sure to congratulate him on the project with a ball pen hammer.

Good night everyone, wish I could laugh and just say I told you so, but yes, due to mr Jason I'm also loosing my money.

Best regards,
Luis Fonseca

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Post by LFonseca » Oct 14th 2002, 9:48 pm

Found my original post, find it here:

http://www.mscl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2303

Even I didn't remember anymore how right I was...

I think I'll change my nick to Nostradamus. Yeah, you may think I'm a prick, but boy, was I right or was I right or was I right... Right? Right? Right?

Good night everyone...

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Post by JPP13 » Oct 14th 2002, 9:55 pm

Just read your earlier post. Must admit, looking back, it was pretty perceptive of you. Prophetic even.

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Post by pgh kenny » Oct 14th 2002, 10:00 pm

i think jason is a decent guy. i respect his work here. i do believe he made a serious mistake in partnering with anotheruniverse - for example he probaly should have confirmed that they had the money to finance the project before signing any contracts. He made statements concerning exclusivity that turned out to not be true.

however, i don't blame him for what has happened. and he his doing everything humanly possible to make things right.

in the end, i ordered from anotheruniverse.com NOT jason. and by the grace of god and the wonderful folks at first usa, i will see my money again.

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Post by LFonseca » Oct 14th 2002, 10:03 pm

"Hell is filled with people of good intentions."
Yes, I'm a prick.

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Post by pgh kenny » Oct 14th 2002, 10:09 pm

LFonseca wrote:"Hell is filled with people of good intentions."
I guess I should have known that, but please excuse me, I just fell off the turnip truck yesterday.

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Post by andrewgd » Oct 14th 2002, 10:14 pm

I beleive at that point he still trusted AU, and thought they knew what they were doing. Should he really have to double check and look over the sholders of trusted partners? In retrospect, yes, but there's no way he would have known that to begin with.

Besides, this money did not go to Jason, it went to Ross and his company.

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Post by Jason R » Oct 14th 2002, 10:24 pm

Reading that prediction just now made me wince. I really wanted to believe in this project and used piss-poor judgement in choosing a retailer to carry the DVDs. I wish that I was the only one that was fooled. BMG, GWhiz, and so many others were harmed. Not only that, but I was AU.com's own Pied Piper.

I cannot undo what might amount to internet fraud. However, if it comes to this, I will make all of my records available to the authorities, as well as fully cooperate as a witness. As far as that goes, I can assure you that Ross's time is running out.

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Post by JPP13 » Oct 14th 2002, 11:04 pm

Lfons, I just read your older posts a 2nd time, and I must clarify. You weren't perceptive, you were a friggin genius.

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my take on it

Post by bradon_gartenberg » Oct 14th 2002, 11:46 pm

As I read your post and past posts, you are wise beyond your years.
Jason seems to have people here around the clock protecting him, so good for you for speaking up.

I work all day and I wonder how come people here post on a continous basis. I am getting yelled at my the old bag right now as I speak and I have worked all day.

If anything Jasons company is just as much repsonsible as AU and BMG, they are all together. Why wouldnt Jasons drygrass not be responsible ?
When you sue anyone, you name everyone in the complaint who had anything to to with the probelm companies included

. I think jason is trying to avoid being blamed and causing a scandel of AU and BMG.

I for one am a pre oder patron and do not support anyone but myself.


All these customers here carring on like jason is the new messiah are suck ups or plants.


yah . yeah jason is a great guy, he is this or he is that is bull.

He is also responsible as BMG or AU they were the entities originally involved with selling us the DVD. Jason took it upon himself to act like AU and BMG mediator for us pre oder patron so he is very well connected to this DVD problem.

just a thought. Of course companies like Jason and AU and BMG will try to silence me, BUT I WONT BE SILENCED!!!

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Re: my take on it

Post by Jason R » Oct 14th 2002, 11:48 pm

i recognize these misspellings.

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Post by arteitle » Oct 14th 2002, 11:55 pm

Bradon (did you mean "Brandon"?), when did you place your DVD order, and were you overcharged at all? Have you had contact with Ross or AU about your order?

Aaron T.

(Didn't think so.)

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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Oct 15th 2002, 1:19 am

bradon_gartenberg wrote:I work all day and I wonder how come people here post on a continuous basis. I am getting yelled at my the old bag right now as I speak and I have worked all day.
If spelling the EXACT SAME WORD incorrectly once again (the first time was when he told me that MY grammar - or grammer according to him - sucked) isn't a dead giveaway, I don't know what is. Maybe your "old bag" is yelling at you because you treat her with all the respect that calling her an old bag entails.
If anything Jasons company is just as much repsonsible as AU and BMG, they are all together. Why wouldnt Jasons drygrass not be responsible ?
When you sue anyone, you name everyone in the complaint who had anything to to with the probelm companies included

. I think jason is trying to avoid being blamed and causing a scandel of AU and BMG.
And didn't we already talk about spaces between words and puncutation?
I for one am a pre oder patron and do not support anyone but myself.

All these customers here carring on like jason is the new messiah are suck ups or plants.
Bored now.

But I'm sure I'll re-read this post later and laugh about his pre-oders.

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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Oct 15th 2002, 1:23 am

bradon_gartenberg wrote:Do you work for this company's, can you help me? if not pipe down, this is a TV show gone wild, thanks to jason. and you.
Yes, I can see how Aaron inquiring about your order helped MSCL become a TV show gone wild. Funny but I don't see any of those drunk spring break girls flashing the camera here. Bummer.
If you are paranoid seek help, delusional commit yourself.
You are the one blaming other forum members like Aaron of conspiracy simply because we disagree with you. Sounds like YOU are the one who is paranoid.

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?

Post by bradon_gartenberg » Oct 15th 2002, 1:29 am

You have no life, do you? Your are either a fustrated school teacher, or just plain unhappy.



so sad.

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