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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Feb 14th 2004, 12:36 am

The official WB press release:
For the last seven years Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer have been cornerstones of our network. The sum total of the work done on those shows has produced some of the proudest moments in our history. Like some of the great series that are leaving the air this year, including Frasier and Friends, the cast, crew, writers and producers of Angel deserve to be able to wrap up the series in a way befitting a classic television series and that is why we went to Joss to let him know that this would be the last year of the series on The WB. We have discussed continuing the Angel legacy with special movie events next year, which is still on the table. In a perfect world, all of these details would be completed before this information went to the press so that we could be definitive about the show's ongoing future. But in any case, we did not want to contemplate this being the last year of Angel without giving the show the option of crafting their own destiny for this character and for this series. David Boreanaz continues to be one of the finest, classiest and friendliest actors we have had the pleasure to work with and we hope that the relationship furthers from here. The same can be said for all the actors and producers on the show.
You can also read a brief interview with David Greenwalt here.

I thought that when Buffy moved to the UPN, they also had an option to pick up Angel if the WB cancelled it. Maybe I hallucinated that, but I guess we'll see in the next few days. Casting sides came out for episode 18 yesterday, so that means they have four episodes to wrap everything up.
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Post by Sascha (sab) » Feb 17th 2004, 10:37 am

And yet another great show bites the dust :-(

Hopefully Joss Whedon will soon come up with a new show. I think he still has a contract with FOX.

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Post by fnordboy » Feb 17th 2004, 1:13 pm

Sascha (sab) wrote:And yet another great show bites the dust :-(

Hopefully Joss Whedon will soon come up with a new show. I think he still has a contract with FOX.
That is too bad :(

Since I haven't watched any Angel passed S2 yet, I really can't say how the show was going with any authority, but reading the posts on here about where the show was going kind of turned me off from the show. Maybe it is better than it is ending now than another season or two later. Hopefully they can wrap everything up nicely in the last few remaining eps.

That would be cool if Joss creates another show.

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Post by Sascha (sab) » Feb 24th 2004, 7:03 am

A fan posted her impressions from the latest Angel "convention" in her webblog, including a short talk with David Fury - take it with a grain of salt, this is not an official source. But still...
* He chuckled about some of the internet rumors about what happened with the cancelation. Here is what he said REALLY happened. Joss went to Levin and basically said... look, don't leave us hanging until after we wrap the season this time. If you're cancelling us, tell us so everybody can find other work. If not, tell us so we can start working out next season. Levin agreed that he was right, they deserved to know one way or the other, since they'd been around for so long, they deserved that. The next day, they were told that they were canceled. They were NOT expecting that. Jaws dropped. He said that they were all shocked, especially after all the recent good press. So... that's it, that's how it happened.


* The show isn't going to be saved, no matter what campaigns pop up (not that the campaigns aren't appreciated). Contrary to popular belief, Angel is one of the cheapest dramas on network t.v., despite the production value and effects. They do a lot with a little. However, the cancellation is still a money issue - a drama is more expensive than a reality show or a sitcom. Cable channels and the "netlets" really can't afford to take it on. The major networks and HBO and their ilk won't either. They might have had a shot with an HBO if the show was only two or three years old, but after five seasons? Won't happen.

* A lot of people are sending in postcards saying "Don't have Buffy end up with Angel" or "Don't have Buffy end up with Spike." These people are wasting their money. This issue will not be resolved. "Sarah is not gonna appear on the show," and even if she did, they wouldn't resolve it.

* He doesn't know what he'll do after Angel wraps - take some time off, probably, and then maybe write a movie or come up with a new television show. Or, he'll work for some "crappy" show that's on now.
Source : http://www.livejournal.com/users/veggie ... 42319.html (also with lots of images)

So, it really doesn't look good :-(
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Post by K-man » Feb 24th 2004, 9:59 pm

And the bad news just keeps a-coming. I haven't been able to really research the background on the cancellation.....it just all makes me really sad. Cordelia dies??????? Then they announce the cancel?????? I was really glad that they brought Spike over to Angel this season with Cordy being gone, that was a tough hole to fill but I think all the additions have somewhat pulled it off. This just really bums me out. Angel is the only show I even watch on a regular basis anymore. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: For the record I liked the puppet episode.
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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Feb 26th 2004, 2:03 am

I don't want to overload this thread with news and articles about the cancellation and campaigns since there are some great sources online, but this is a good (and brief) one about Joss's relationship history with the WB here.
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Post by lance » Feb 28th 2004, 9:17 pm

Hey,

I am deeply saddened by Angel's cancellation. I will miss this show. Many of the episodes this past season have been simply brillant. Case in point: Smile time. Puppet Angel worked out so well. This episode was exceedingly well done.

I don't think Angel will be saved this time, although http://www.slayage.com has reported that Joss and Fox have approached UPN with a proposal. Part of the reason it won't be saved is that agree with it or not, Angel has turned off alot of the fans who just watched the show for the character of Cordelia Chase. Joss killing her off the way he did, was unnecessary and a bit harsh.

No matter what this is a great show that will be missed.

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Post by lance » Feb 28th 2004, 9:47 pm

Hey all,

Alexa Davalos, who played Gwen "Electric Girl" in Angel, will be starring opposite Vin Diesel in this summer's movie Riddick. Riddick being the sequel to Pitch Black.

You can read more here:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-film ... 12.30.film

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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Mar 3rd 2004, 4:11 pm

From SciFi Wire
09:00am ET, 03-March-04

Gellar Open To Angel Gig

Sarah Michelle Gellar, former star of TV's Buffy the Vampire Slayer, told SCI FI Wire the reasons she reluctantly pulled out of appearing in the Buffy spinoff Angel earlier this season and left open the possibility that she might still make an appearance, if asked, before Angel winds up its fifth and final season this year on The WB. Gellar, speaking for the first time about the issue, said in an interview that she had to bow out of a planned guest appearance on Angel when her aunt died late last year. Gellar spoke to SCI FI Wire during a break in the filming of her new project, the supernatural horror film The Grudge, in Tokyo.

Her Angel decision was "a really common misconception that people have written a lot about," Gellar said. "They had asked me to do Angel, and it was a very bad time in my personal life. There was a lot going on in my family. And I had to back out. And you sort of never hear the second side of the story. You never hear why I didn't do it. And then all of a sudden, people get really angry, and nobody asks why it didn't work for you." At the time, reports suggested that Gellar had pulled out because she wanted to distance herself from the Buffy franchise.

As for whether she will guest star in Angel's season-ending episodes, much as Angel star David Boreanaz did on Buffy when it wrapped its seven-year run last spring, Gellar said it hinges in part on her schedule. She's finishing the final weeks of 42 days of shooting on The Grudge, with at least nine more shooting days to go. The final Angel episodes are in production now.
"A lot has been written about recently, 'Oh, is she going to do it? Is she not going to do it?'" Gellar said. "Well, to be truthful, I don't know if I'm even going to make it home before they finish. But no one's contacted me. I'll be totally honest. And it depends. I think. I go back and forth on the idea, especially because Angel had such a hard time, in my opinion, always getting out from Buffy's shadow. And it never got to stand on its own. And I would hate for it to go out being about Buffy. It'll all depend on if I'm home in time and what the ideas are."

Buffy and Angel creator Joss Whedon has said he'd welcome an appearance by Gellar. For her part, she said she's open to it, explaining, "If everything falls into place, and it feels like the right thing at the time for the right people."
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Post by GaryEA » Mar 4th 2004, 1:35 am

I was just thinking about how Angel was ending and where Buffy would fit in, then something came to mind.

It might be very difficult for SMG to fit an appearance on Angel because, while "The Grudge" (a film based on the Japanese horror series and films "Ju-on") may only have days to go before wrapping, they're shooting it in Japan.*

That may be the clincher, unless she shoots a single scene after she returns.

Sorry to see your show going guys. I feel for ya.

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Post by Natasha (candygirl) » Mar 4th 2004, 5:32 am

Yup, in the above article it says that she is filming in Toyko.
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Post by JPP13 » Mar 4th 2004, 8:32 am

I think SMG will show. It very well may be her last time to play that role.

Amy Acker has now shot to the top of my all-time fave chick.

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Post by fnordboy » Mar 4th 2004, 12:41 pm

GaryEA wrote:I was just thinking about how Angel was ending and where Buffy would fit in, then something came to mind.

It might be very difficult for SMG to fit an appearance on Angel because, while "The Grudge" (a film based on the Japanese horror series and films "Ju-on") may only have days to go before wrapping, they're shooting it in Japan.*

That may be the clincher, unless she shoots a single scene after she returns.

* = Fnordboy can correct me if I'm wrong on that one. :wink:
Yes it is in Tokyo. Plus I am pretty sure it is being filmed at the same house used in the Juon movies, which is pretty cool IMO. I still can't see how SMG will be any good in this film...but I guess I can hope that it will be a better effort than The Ring.

Personally, I don't think she will show up for any of the episodes. I thought Joss had said already that she wouldn't be. I don't think she will be able to fit it in, and if she does actually make it I think it will be a compeltely pointless and short "look who's here" scene. Of course I may be wrong.

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Post by lance » Mar 6th 2004, 3:25 pm

GaryEA wrote:I was just thinking about how Angel was ending and where Buffy would fit in, then something came to mind.

It might be very difficult for SMG to fit an appearance on Angel because, while "The Grudge" (a film based on the Japanese horror series and films "Ju-on") may only have days to go before wrapping, they're shooting it in Japan.*

That may be the clincher, unless she shoots a single scene after she returns.

Sorry to see your show going guys. I feel for ya.

Gary

* = Fnordboy can correct me if I'm wrong on that one. :wink:
A couple of thoughts:

From everything I have read, UPN balked at picking up Angel b/c they had such a horrible experience with seasons 6 &7 of Buffy, too expensive. Apparently Fox wanted more from UPN than they were willing to pay.

I don't know if SMG will show for Angel or not, much talk about EGO on the internet with regard to SMG. I have never met her so I don't have a clue.

However, should she show I have a great storyline. All season long Angel has been rebuffed by the "good guys": the powers that be, the new slayers, Andrew and Giles. Have Buffy come back to welcome Angel back into the good guy fold by helping him and the Fang Gang leave Wolfram & Hart.

What did you guys think about last week's episodes? Apparently no Angel period, not even reruns, for the rest of March on the WB.

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Post by lance » Mar 7th 2004, 11:10 am

Hey all,

I could be totally wrong here, but I am pretty sure that Stephanie Romanov (who played Angel's nemesis Lilah Morgan) is currently doing the new Medicare commericals, telling people what the new Medicare law offers.

Interesting.

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