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Post by Lurker1999 » Oct 17th 2002, 12:07 pm

It's good to hear that the people who have chosen to stay with AU will receive at least part of what they paid for (i.e. the actual DVD). I'm still ordering from elsewhere though, probably Amazon. That phantom bonus disc is still in limbo and the lunchbox would probably look a little strange next to my Lain and Armitage boxes anyway :)

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Post by Cate » Oct 17th 2002, 12:12 pm

Jason Rosenfeld wrote:My big fear is that past unauthorized credit card double and triple bills paid BMG. That's why I have to wash my hands of this project. The end does not always justify the means.
Couldn't really let this pass - Jason if the $200,000.00 was paid by unauthorized double and triple charges and the average overcharge amount was $79.98 then *2,500 people* (give or take) would have to have been double charged. (I didn't factor in triple charges but we have seen less that five people on this board, I think, who were triple charged. ???)

Please keep in mind that some people have had their double charges corrected.

Some people who were double charged caught it on time and did not pay the double charge.

And if you are hinting that GWhiz is also being paid by funds from double and triple charges then how many more people would have had to have been double or triple charged?

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Post by crymsonangel » Oct 17th 2002, 12:13 pm

That's great news. It comes a little late though and I've already cancelled my order. Amazon has a great deal where you get a discount if you tell a friend and you both order.

anybody want in on it?

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Post by so-called customer » Oct 17th 2002, 12:14 pm

Have you checked your credit card statement today? Maybe a few thousand more are in for double charges.... 8)

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Post by mephisto » Oct 17th 2002, 12:18 pm

Cate wrote:Couldn't really let this pass - Jason if the $200,000.00 was paid by unauthorized double and triple charges and the average overcharge amount was $79.98 then *2,500 people* (give or take) would have to have been double charged.
I guess most people were double charged $115 (albeit having preordered vor $99.98), like I was

and who says that AU paid the whole amount with double charges? Perhaps it just helped them to pay for the DVDs at all. It's nice to see that my 115 dollars can do something good for the MSCL-community. Nevertheless, I'd like to have them back

and I think you don't want to know how many people were overcharged....

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Post by Jason R » Oct 17th 2002, 12:18 pm

Cate,

If a company is acting "tapped-out," and also has at least $50,000 in double charges (which I can substantiate, btw). Then it is a possibility that a portion of the funds are from those charges.

If not, great. However, I've washed my hands of this mess. I guarantee that, 6 months from now, customers will still be waiting for the bonus package to be completed., and I don't want to be the one to field the complaints.

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Post by Richie » Oct 17th 2002, 12:25 pm

Cate, I can't believe you still defend AU or question the validity of all the s**t they have pulled. Something about your posts is very suspicious.

My original order was for $99.98. I was overcharged nearly another $200. I don't care about AU or anyone who works there, all sympathy is long gone for the poor "workers". I just want the money I am owed.

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Post by fnordboy » Oct 17th 2002, 12:28 pm

Lurker1999 wrote:...and the lunchbox would probably look a little strange next to my Lain and Armitage boxes anyway :)
Yeah it may look weird next to my Lain lunchbox, but would work with my Sailor Moon one. And it will definitely work next to my Serial Mom cereal box.

Never got the Armitage box...can not get into the Armitage movies, cant get past how bad it is drawn.

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Post by Jason R » Oct 17th 2002, 12:28 pm

Some have acted as Nostradamuses (Nostradamii?), and I'm just hoping that BMG really researched the source of the funds. Otherwise, I am predicting they might regret having accepted it.

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Post by Anakin » Oct 17th 2002, 12:44 pm

Cate wrote: And if you are hinting that GWhiz is also being paid by funds from double and triple charges then how many more people would have had to have been double or triple charged?
Anyone can also prove that whether GWhiz had been paid yet?
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Post by Jennifer » Oct 17th 2002, 12:47 pm

Jason, thanks for the news. I'm hoping it really is good.

I haven't canceled my order, though part of my reasoning for that involves the fact that I paid by check, and it seemed like a LOT of hassle, since I'd have to get the money back from AU. I've not been double charged, but paid a $20 deposit initially and then an $80 balance in July, when I got an email from Jason.

I pre-ordered the set from Amazon, figuring that if things panned out here I could always cancel that order. But now I'm afraid.

What I do have: I have two emails from Jason. I have an order number that he sent me. I have two canceled checks from AU. And I have photocopies of what I sent to AU to originally place the order.

What I don't have: Any correspondence from AU directly. Responses to any of the five emails I sent to them directly, trying to find out what the status was of my order (it took them FOREVER to cancel the checks). Any response confirming that my mailing address was changed after I was directed to email changes to AU. A response to the fax or the letter I sent them after they wouldn't respond to my emails. A returned phone call from the message I left at AU headquarters. Confidence that I'm actually going to receive the box set.

Right now, I'm just hoping that IF, as it appears, the funds have been paid, and IF AU follows through and sends out some semblance of what was ordered, my name and address will show up on their list of people whom are owed DVD's.

As they say in the World of Mutant Enemy, Grrr...Arrgh...

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Post by Jason R » Oct 17th 2002, 12:54 pm

Jennifer,

That's why I had to pull out of this deal. I was playing "clean up the mess," and it is more than one person, let alone a person without a contract or guarantee of payment, could bear.

I want the money owed to my company (in excess of $25,000) to be returned to the customers in the form of a credit card refund, check, etc.. Otherwise, I want the money sent to a trust, perhaps set up by MSCL.com. I just can't waste my time with a company that does not even pay judgements against it.

In sum, I think that they really suck.

Jason Rosenfeld

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Re: explantation.

Post by Cate » Oct 17th 2002, 12:54 pm

Jason Rosenfeld wrote:Cate,

If a company is acting "tapped-out," and also has at least $50,000 in double charges (which I can substantiate, btw). Then it is a possibility that a portion of the funds are from those charges.
Just to recap -

You said -

"Too many customers have been double or triple charged and I have no way of knowing if the sufficient funds are a result of these unauthorized charges."

and then -

"My big fear is that past unauthorized credit card double and triple bills paid BMG."

I think you should have been a little more precise in what you were saying.

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Post by Leslie » Oct 17th 2002, 12:55 pm

Cate,
Would you please leave Jason alone already!!!! I usally just read these boards and hardly ever post, but your posts have been toatally annoying me. You have the right to question and play devils advocate however you have totally crossed that line. Why istead of giving Jason such a hard time, why don't you focus your energies and getting a straight answer from Ross as to why ANYONE was double or triple charged, why he paid for the discs LAST NIGHT when they should have been paid for months ago, and why he REFUSES to provide any sort of communication with his 3000+ customers who paid him 8 MONTHS AGO for a product that should have been shipped in JUNE!!

There are a ton of other issues that he needs to answer for, but I'll be surprised if you can even get that far with him.

-Leslie

Couldn't really let this pass - Jason if the $200,000.00 was paid by unauthorized double and triple charges and the average overcharge amount was $79.98 then *2,500 people* (give or take) would have to have been double charged. (I didn't factor in triple charges but we have seen less that five people on this board, I think, who were triple charged. ???)

Please keep in mind that some people have had their double charges corrected.

Some people who were double charged caught it on time and did not pay the double charge.

And if you are hinting that GWhiz is also being paid by funds from double and triple charges then how many more people would have had to have been double or triple charged?[/quote]

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Post by Jason R » Oct 17th 2002, 1:00 pm

Cate, I am sure that AU thanks you for the 8 month interest-free loan you provided to them.

I, on the other hand, am merely here now to keep the pressure on them to deliver the products, credit people's cards, and refund enough money to customers so that they are getting a fair deal.

This has not been a fair deal for any of you, including you, Cate.

I should add that I only believe that AU paid BMG because they were threatened.

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