Is TV rubbish in the autumn?

[Sascha]

Lost looks like it could be good, but it also looks like it could be really bad. Like over-acting, soap opera-ish melodrama bad.

I thought so too at first, but the show has some very interesting surprises. The pilot is a two hour episode - the first 20-30 minutes are exactly how you describe it - "over-acting, soap opera-ish melodrama bad" and that's where the show will loose a lot of viewers. But then things get crazy and there's a lot of blood...
Unfortunately (IMHO), from what I heard, J.J. Abrams already gave in and removed some of the more graphic scenes from the pilot episode for the final version.

And please don't miss your chance to check out Arrested Development, the best show on TV. This is an extremely rare case of a quality show pulling in horrible ratings but being given a much-deserved second chance.

I agree completely. I have only seen a few eps, but this show is great.

[So-Called Loon]

As Mike mentioned, Gilmore Girls starts on theWB next week. I'm really wondering how the show will survive the "loss" of so many characters.

How about filling in the unfilled in.

Who's left or been axed?

[Sascha]

The Loon is back! Welcome back!

As Mike mentioned, Gilmore Girls starts on theWB next week. I'm really wondering how the show will survive the "loss" of so many characters.

How about filling in the unfilled in.

Who's left or been axed?

That was actually already last season (2003/04 - this thread is pretty old and got revived last month). Adam Brody (Lane's boyfriend) left for "The O.C." (very wise career choice IMHO), Jared Padalecki ("Dean") and Milo Ventimiglia ("Jess") were supposed to leave the show for good, but came back later in season 4. Dean will probably even become a regular again in season 5. David Sutcliffe (Rory's dad) left for "I'm With Her", but that show got cancelled, so he will be back in season 5 of "Gilmore Girls". Madeline and Louise (Rory/Paris' friends from school) also left the show. It was unclear last year, how many scenes Paris and Lane would have because they were supposed to go to different schools than Rory. But they had as many scenes as in earlier seasons.

[So-Called Loon]

Wow.

Thanks for the summary. I didn't realize Sutcliffe's show got keesed.

I liked the earlier more peculiar Paris than the just sort of irritating version this recent season.

[sarahr_81]

hmm, shows this fall i am looking forward to the most are csi and the gilmore girls, and for my guilty pleasures, the oc and one tree hill.

[So-Called Loon]

Ah yes. One Tree Hill.

I thought it was going to be another... pick a show ripoff.

Turned out to be something quite different with a likeable cast.


I heard the stats for one of the big 3 networks which had the number of lame comedies way down this season.

But then i thought about it. I regularly read where network execs say how hard it is to get a drama going. That's when it hit me that all those stinker comedies aren't being traded in for dramas; but unreality shows. P. U.

[sarahr_81]

yeha, i dont really get the whole reality show craze, ive never seen an epsiode of survivor, i do love the amazing race though, that one got me hooked and i will watch nick & jessica if i see it on tv.

[Sascha]

I did this already last year, so here are the start dates for this year's fall season. (Don't mind the upper case titles, I copied and pasted them from various press releases).

Sun 28 August
9:00-10:00 p.m. ROME (HBO)

Mon 29 August
8:00-10:00 p.m. PRISON BREAK (FOX, 2-Hour Series Premiere)

Mon 5 September
9:00-10:00 p.m. PRISON BREAK (FOX, Time Period Premiere)

Thur 8 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. THE O.C. (FOX, Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. REUNION (FOX, Series Premiere)

Sun 11 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. THE SIMPSONS (FOX, Season Premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m. THE WAR AT HOME (FOX, Series Premiere)
9:00-9:30 p.m. FAMILY GUY (FOX, Season Premiere)
9:30-10:00 p.m. AMERICAN DAD (FOX, Season Premiere)

Tue 13 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Gilmore Girls” (WB)
8:00-9:00 p.m. BONES (FOX, Series Premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Supernatural” (WB)
9:00-10:00 p.m. HOUSE (FOX, Season Premiere)

Wed 14 September
9:00-10:00 p.m. HEAD CASES (FOX, Series Premiere)

Fri 16 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. “What I Like About You” (WB)
8:30-9:00 p.m. “Twins” (WB)
9:00-11:00 p.m. THRESHOLD (CBS, two-hour series premiere)
9:00-9:30 p.m. “Reba” (WB)
9:30-10:00 p.m. “Living With Fran” (WB)

Sun 18 September
7:30-8:00 p.m. KING OF THE HILL (FOX, Season Premiere)
8:00-11:00 p.m. 57th ANNUAL PRIMETIME EMMY AWARDS (CBS)

Mon 19 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. THE KING OF QUEENS (CBS, 8th season premiere)
8:00-8:30 p.m. “One on One” (UPN)
8:00-8:30 p.m. ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT (FOX, Season Premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m. HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER (CBS, series debut)
8:30-9:00 p.m. “All of Us” (UPN)
8:30-9:00 p.m. KITCHEN CONFIDENTIAL (FOX, Series Premiere)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “SURFACE” (formerly “Fathom”, NBC)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “7th Heaven” (WB)
9:00-9:30 p.m. TWO AND A HALF MEN (CBS, 3rd season premiere)
9:00-9:30 p.m. “Girlfriends” (UPN)
9:30-10:00 p.m. OUT OF PRACTICE (CBS, series debut)
9:30-10:00 p.m. “Half and Half” (UPN)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Las Vegas” (NBC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Just Legal” (WB)
10:00-11:00 p.m. CSI: MIAMI (CBS, 4th season premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Medium” (NBC)

Tue 20 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. NCIS (CBS, 3rd season premiere)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “According to Jim” (ABC, one hour season premiere)
9:00-9:30 p.m. “MY NAME IS EARL” (NBC)
9:30-10:00 p.m. “The Office” (NBC)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit” (NBC)

Wed 21 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. STILL STANDING (CBS, 4th season premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m. YES, DEAR (CBS, 6th season premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Lost” (ABC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “E-RING” (NBC)
10:00-11:00 p.m. CSI: NY (CBS, 2nd season premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Invasion” (ABC)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Law & Order” (NBC)

Thur 22 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. “Everybody hates Chris” (UPN)
8:30-9:00 p.m. “Eve” (UPN)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Joey” (special 1-hour premiere, NBC)
9:00-9:30 p.m. “Cuts” (UPN)
9:30-10:00 p.m. “Love, Inc.” (UPN)
9:00-10:00 p.m. CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION (CBS, 6th season premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m. CRIMINAL MINDS (CBS, series debut)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “ER” (NBC)

Fri 23 September
8:00-8:30 p.m. THE BERNIE MAC SHOW (FOX, Season Premiere)
8:30-9:00 p.m. MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE (FOX, Season Premiere)
8:00-9:00 p.m. GHOST WHISPERER (CBS, series debut)
9:00-10:00 p.m. THRESHOLD (CBS, time period debut)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Hope & Faith” (ABC, one hour season premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. KILLER INSTINCT [formerly THE GATE] (FOX, Series Premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m. NUMB3RS (CBS, 2nd season premiere)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “INCONCEIVABLE” (NBC)

Sun 25 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. COLD CASE (CBS, 3rd season premiere)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “The West Wing” (NBC)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Charmed” (WB)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Desperate Housewives” (ABC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Law & Order: Criminal Intent” (NBC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Blue Collar TV” (WB)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Crossing Jordan” (NBC)

Tue 27 September
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Commander In Chief” (ABC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Sex, Love and Secrets” (UPN)
10:00-11:00 p.m. “Boston Legal” (ABC)

Wed 28 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. “George Lopez” (ABC, one-hour season premiere)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Veronica Mars” (UPN)
9:00-10:00 p.m. CRIMINAL MINDS (CBS, time period premiere)

Thur 29 September
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Alias” (ABC)
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Smallville” (WB)
8:30-9:00 p.m. “Will & Grace” (live episode, NBC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Night Stalker” (ABC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Everwood” (WB)
10:00-11:00 p.m. WITHOUT A TRACE (CBS, 4th season premiere)

Tue 4 October
8:30-9:00 p.m. “Rodney” (ABC)
10:00-11:00 p.m. CLOSE TO HOME (CBS, series debut)

Wed 5 October
8:00-9:00 p.m. “One Tree Hill” (WB)
8:30-9:00 p.m. “Freddie” (ABC)
9:00-10:00 p.m. “Related” (WB)

Fri 7 October
9:30-10:00 p.m. “Hot Properties” (ABC)

Wed 19 October
10.00-10.30 p.m. “South Park” (Comedy Central)

Wed 2 November
8:30 p.m. “Stacked” (FOX)

[emmie]

thanks for always keeping us in the know, Sascha!!