Queen of Brooklyn! I totally appreciate the time and thought that you put into your posts, it’s so helpful, and encouraging, and I have fun talking about it with you. I hope you find more things to keep you coming to the forum!
queen of brooklyn wrote:So is Mr. Katimski really fired and completely gone? Or are we ever going to see him again? Oh, and also with Rickie, I think his character on the show went through a lot of changes too. Like in the beginning, we saw him dealing with bullies and not fitting in, but he was mainly happy and rather passive in regards to Rayanne. Towards the end more things started happening to him, and I think he really grew and became stronger. He started standing up to Rayanne and being honest with people. He changed, and I don’t really think he would ever be quite as dreamy
Yes, I’m pretty sure that Katimski is fired, and I don’t think we’ll see him again, I don’t think. I totally got what you were saying about Rickie, it makes perfect sense, and put into words what I was kind of thinking.
queen of brooklyn wrote:I think you actually write Patty very well. For instance…
P: [chuckles] You think of Jordan Catalano as James Dean?
G: Well, he’s certainly without a cause.
You really captured the way they relate to each other and bring in all these outside references in their conversations. Really, don’t be too hard on yourself, you’re writing Patty great!
That’s really nice, thank you. The older I get the more I love Patty, and especially after watching two episodes today, I hope I’m doing her justice.
queen of brooklyn wrote:I don’t think with Jordan you are just projecting things onto him. There’s only one scene that I thought may have been a little too sweet of him, but it’s too wonderful for you to get rid of!
The one on the bleachers right? The “I like you speech? I know… I wasn’t really sure if that fit into character, but I liked it too. And, like I said, I needed to show that Angela was getting what she needed out of this relationship when she really needed it, or I couldn’t justify her getting back together with him.
queen of brooklyn wrote:The balance between sweet Jordan and cool Jordan is perfect. I really like how even though their relationship is maturing, they are still not completely comfortable with each other. It doesn’t feel like the relationship is just rushing straight into this serious thing, instead you take a couple steps forward and then a step or two back. I really liked the bit when they were talking in Angela’s kitchen! … I love how Jordan’s friends know who she is- like when the one friend mentions Jordan’s lady and Cynthia says she’s the girl he’s not sleeping with. I live for little moments like that!
Yea, I’m so glad that they’re entertaining someone else. The Angela and Jordan scenes are always the first ones I write, everything else is structured around them – I have the most fun writing them (and the Jordan stories were what first motivated me to try fanfictions more than ten years ago). I liked what you said about the “couple steps forward and then a step or two back”, it’s hard sometimes to see if it reads the way I mean it to, or if it’s only clear to me because I know what was in my head when I wrote it.
queen of brooklyn wrote:So did Rayanne and Brian actually have sex, or did they just make out? Brian says that her shirt was off, but it was never entirely clear if they actually went all the way. Brian was awfully calm about the whole thing if they really did! I mean, as he ever even kissed a girl before her? … are they completely over? Or would they still maybe hook up occasionally? I think it’s good that both characters separately realized what they would do to Angela and began to have doubts.
Yeah, I meant for this to be a bit ambiguous. It’s totally up to your interpretation, because I’m not even definite on what happened, but in my mind, there definitely was no sex, definitely kissing, and maybe Rayanne giving a little head (uh-oh, am I allowed to say that in the forum? That kind of talk flies in the interactive story, but I don’t know about in the forum …) As far as I know, they are over.
queen of brooklyn wrote: Poor guy, all these changes…
I know, I was kind of having fun at Brian’s expense in this episode (as the audio commentator on the Sex and City DVD’s (Darren Starr?) loves to put it: “the pie in the face)”. Brian was finally getting past Angela – he repositioned his telescope, that we know he used to watch Angel with, showing us that he’s finally ready to see other things; he can’t find his camera around Angela, and we know he used to take pictures of her, but he does have it when he sees Rayanne, but then everything kind of falls apart. Just like what we saw in “Life of Brian” – Brian takes an interest in someone else, and Angela enters the picture and Brian can’t let go of that. I don’t think that Brian and Rayanne would ever have a lasting relationship, but perhaps if Angela wasn’t a factor, it might have lasted longer than it did (and what’s worse, is that neither of them were really doing it because of Angela. (On the topic of Brian and Angela, I do now want to show that the more Angela thinks about it, she is kind of reconsidering Brian and what potential might be there, but as it’s a relatively new idea, there doesn’t really seem to be a place to put it in and let it develop…)
queen of brooklyn wrote: I think Jordan handles things well. I mean seriously, the assistant principal was bringing up Angela, his friend knows Jordan hangs out a lot with her…but he doesn’t act all ashamed or embarrassed, he just deals with it.
I like that too. Yeah, I’m not sure what other people think about the assistant principal scenes, but they’re some of my favorites. I think I like looking at the different kind of relationships that Jordan has with people. I also like that while he is going out of his way to help Jordan, he unknowingly gives the Chases bad information about Rickie,
Thank you for the perspective on the weekend thing, I’m still very uncertain of what I want to do with this, and your thoughts will help when I sit down in June to start writing the episode. (Don’t worry though about the Jordan/Raynanne thing, nothing bad comes of it, and it’s kind of the episode’s joke on Angela. Angela’s drinking, I’m not going to try to defend it right now because I haven’t even written how it comes about yet, but I do have a theory explaining my defense of this choice if I need it (it works for my episode #20 too).
queen of brooklyn wrote: Oh, that reminds me, you never explained what was causing Rayanne’s crazy behavior in Isolation. Was it anything to do with Brian, or was there some other reason?
The Rayanne storyline kind of fell flat for me in that last episode, I’m not really sure why she was acting out that way, but then, no one else is. While Rayanne is still a part of the show’s story, I kind of see her on the sidelines right now, and as such, we don’t really get to see her point of view. It might be a reaction to things ending between her and Brian, or her being freaked out that something happened between them or it might be something totally different. It might be the eventual reaction to everything kind of falling apart form her and feeling isolated. I’m not sure. I like the idea of it maybe having something to do with her dad, I’m keeping that in the back of my mind. I kind of would like there to be a continuing soft-spot recognition between these Rayanne and Brian… (I wanted to be sure that what happened at the cast party didn’t involve drinking because I didn’t want Rayanne being drunk when she goes for Brian. I didn’t want it to be another thing where somebody is with her when they want Angela; Brian wants to be with Rayanne.)
queen of brooklyn wrote: Okay, Jordan and Rickie’s living situation. I don’t think Rickie would tell the Chase’s he wasn’t living at Pride House. … And Jordan. Where’s he gonna be? … So he must have gotten drunk the night that him and Angela were in the car and he invited her to the lake. Interesting.
Yes, Jordan is definitely going back home, he left to kind of let things cool off, and for him to kind of wrap his mind around what happened, since he was under the impression that he had taken care of things a couple of years ago, that this isn’t the “arrangement” anymore. Jordan’s going home. Rickie, I’m not sure… The Chases will definitely find out the reality of the situation; at this point, they’re not aware there’s been a miscommunication, and neither is Rickie, I don’t know what I’m going to do with this now. Huh, I just realized I’ve been misreading your post. I thought you had written: “I don’t think Rickie wouldn’t
tell the Chase’s he wasn’t living at Pride House. … That changes things. I’d like to hear more about that… No, don’t think Jordan’s drunk when he invites her to the lake. (I’m going to go back and look at that.)