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A Must Read Article

Post by andrewgd » Apr 29th 2003, 4:21 am

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightlin ... 30425.html

Some things to think about: How hated will we be if we cannot get a stable (and wanted) democracy in Iraq? Will this war have put fear into terrorists, or will it put hatred into hundreds or thousands of more?

And how can Democracy offer hope for the Middle East, when so many people in our own country have lost hope in Democracy, and entire blocks of the population are ignored and dismissed without thought?
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Re: A Must Read Article

Post by lance » Apr 29th 2003, 1:30 pm

andrewgd wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightlin ... 30425.html

Some things to think about: How hated will we be if we cannot get a stable (and wanted) democracy in Iraq? Will this war have put fear into terrorists, or will it put hatred into hundreds or thousands of more?

And how can Democracy offer hope for the Middle East, when so many people in our own country have lost hope in Democracy, and entire blocks of the population are ignored and dismissed without thought?
Andrewgd,

Thanks for the post, you raise some interesting questions.

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Post by Rickie Love » May 13th 2003, 5:48 pm

Hey folks. Been a while, hope everyone is well. Anyway, I was sent this item a few days ago. Obviously, not everyone will agree here. Just thought it was interesting.


George W. Bush Resume

It all started with an email exchange between a right-winger from my local newspaper, and of course the war with Iraq came up pretty quick. But he said something in defense of George Bush that really surprised me. In defense of the attack on Iraq he said 'between Hussein and Bush, Hussein is the bad guy'.

My first response was ... So your guy is better than a third world dictator, Wow! what an accomplishment! Does he put that on his resume? And with that in mind, I started wondering ... what would a George W. Bush resume look like exactly?

Listed below is what I came up with,

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Kelley Kramer


George W. Bush Resume

Past work experience:


Ran for congress and lost.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

As governor of Texas:

Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job. Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

(http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her).

First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force One)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'. Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.

Refused to take drug test or answer questions about drug use.

All records of tenure as governor of Texas have been removed to George Bush Sr.'s library, sealed in secrecy and are un-available for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation on which George W. Bush served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings George W. Bush (or the vice-president) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.

Established the Carlyle Group to manage post-war revenues. Heading up the Carlyle Group is (surprise, surprise), George Bush Sr. and James Baker.
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Post by lance » May 14th 2003, 9:06 am

Rickie Love (and by extension Kelly Kramer)

You are so preaching to choir as far as I am concerned. :D One thing missing from list of George W all time favorites, AWOL from his National Guard Unit.

Sadly (or not from one's own political perspective) the man has 60%+ approval ratings, so what gives there?

Anybody been following the departure of the Texas House Democrats to avoid GOP redistricting? What do you think?

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More on the Texas 58

Post by lance » May 14th 2003, 10:56 am

"The problem was the Democrats made it out of the state, with most hiding out in Oklahoma and others perhaps in New Mexico, where they couldn't be arrested by Texas police [yes, there is an actual Texas law that allows authorities to arrest a politician for not showing up]. And the Oklahoma authorities have so far refused to get involved, although New Mexico Attorney General Patricia Madrid, a Democrat, said she "put out an all-points bulletin for law enforcement to be on the lookout for politicians in favor of health care for the needy and against tax cuts for the wealthy."

from "We Need More Democratic Politicans like Texas 58" by Jackson Thoreau

see: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.ph ... =0&thold=0

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Post by Rickie Love » May 15th 2003, 2:35 am

I hear ya, Lance Man.

Don't forget to vote. :wink: Surely not everyone can think these are good times or that good things are happening for this country. Some very bad stuff is brewing...
"Oh, just say the word and she's a footnote in history. I'll make it look like a painful accident..."

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Post by Rickie Love » May 16th 2003, 12:04 pm

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichmarshall

Hmmm...sound familiar?
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Post by lance » May 16th 2003, 2:04 pm

Rickie Love wrote:"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichmarshall

Hmmm...sound familiar?
Frightfully so.

Lance Man

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