Miscellaneous methods of Civil Disobedience

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Miscellaneous methods of Civil Disobedience

Post by wicked » Nov 10th 2004, 3:31 pm

Miscellaneous methods of Civil Disobedience:

1) Standing in front of City Hall and chanting the word 'pudding' until one's demands are met.

2) Phoning members of the 'establishment' and singing 'Bess, You Is My Woman Now' into the phone.

3)Dressing as a policeman and then skipping.

4) Pretending to be an artichoke but punching people as they pass.

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Re: Miscellaneous methods of Civil Disobedience

Post by SanDeE* » Nov 10th 2004, 5:35 pm

wicked wrote:Miscellaneous methods of Civil Disobedience:

1) Standing in front of City Hall and chanting the word 'pudding' until one's demands are met.
Wicked, when I first started reading this I thought maybe #1 was something that your kids did to you recently! :lol:
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Post by fnordboy » Nov 10th 2004, 5:57 pm

This thread reminds me of Hakim Bey's Poetic Terrorism from the book The Autonomous Zone:
Poetic Terrorism

WEIRD DANCING IN ALL-NIGHT computer-banking lobbies. Unauthorized pyrotechnic displays. Land-art, earth-works as bizarre alien artifacts strewn in State Parks. Burglarize houses but instead of stealing, leave Poetic-Terrorist objects. Kidnap someone & make them happy. Pick someone at random & convince them they're the heir to an enormous, useless & amazing fortune--say 5000 square miles of Antarctica, or an aging circus elephant, or an orphanage in Bombay, or a collection of alchemical mss. Later they will come to realize that for a few moments they believed in something extraordinary, & will perhaps be driven as a result to seek out some more intense mode of existence.

Bolt up brass commemorative plaques in places (public or private) where you have experienced a revelation or had a particularly fulfilling sexual experience, etc.

Go naked for a sign.

Organize a strike in your school or workplace on the grounds that it does not satisfy your need for indolence & spiritual beauty.

Grafitti-art loaned some grace to ugly subways & rigid public monuments--PT-art can also be created for public places: poems scrawled in courthouse lavatories, small fetishes abandoned in parks & restaurants, xerox-art under windshield-wipers of parked cars, Big Character Slogans pasted on playground walls, anonymous letters mailed to random or chosen recipients (mail fraud), pirate radio transmissions, wet cement...

The audience reaction or aesthetic-shock produced by PT ought to be at least as strong as the emotion of terror-- powerful disgust, sexual arousal, superstitious awe, sudden intuitive breakthrough, dada-esque angst--no matter whether the PT is aimed at one person or many, no matter whether it is "signed" or anonymous, if it does not change someone's life (aside from the artist) it fails.

PT is an act in a Theater of Cruelty which has no stage, no rows of seats, no tickets & no walls. In order to work at all, PT must categorically be divorced from all conventional structures for art consumption (galleries, publications, media). Even the guerilla Situationist tactics of street theater are perhaps too well known & expected now.

An exquisite seduction carried out not only in the cause of mutual satisfaction but also as a conscious act in a deliberately beautiful life--may be the ultimate PT. The PTerrorist behaves like a confidence-trickster whose aim is not money but CHANGE.

Don't do PT for other artists, do it for people who will not realize (at least for a few moments) that what you have done is art. Avoid recognizable art-categories, avoid politics, don't stick around to argue, don't be sentimental; be ruthless, take risks, vandalize only what must be defaced, do something children will remember all their lives--but don't be spontaneous unless the PT Muse has possessed you.

Dress up. Leave a false name. Be legendary. The best PT is against the law, but don't get caught. Art as crime; crime as art.

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Post by wicked » Nov 10th 2004, 6:05 pm

wow I love that!

Dress up. Leave a false name. Be legendary. The best PT is against the law, but don't get caught. Art as crime; crime as art.
may need that as a sig line somewhere!
"So this is hell. I'd never have believed it. You remember all we were told about the torture-chambers, the fire and brimstone, the "burning marl." Old wive's tales! There's no need for red-hot pokers. HELL IS - OTHER PEOPLE!"

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Post by fnordboy » Nov 10th 2004, 6:13 pm

wicked wrote:wow I love that!

Dress up. Leave a false name. Be legendary. The best PT is against the law, but don't get caught. Art as crime; crime as art.
may need that as a sig line somewhere!
LOL I know, I thought the same thing. I might have to pull this book out now and reread it. It has been atleast a decade or so since I even glanced at it.

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Post by Nostradamus » Nov 11th 2004, 4:20 pm

I've seen photographs of amazing reproductions of famous artworks on the walls of old New York City sewer tunnels. Even though I'll probably never see them first hand, it's kinda cool just knowing they're out there.
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Post by SanDeE* » Nov 11th 2004, 5:01 pm

The idea of Poetic Terrorism reminds me of Fight Club for some reason.
Um, in my room, one seam is a little off and I stare at it constantly. It's, like, destroying me.

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Post by pgh kenny » Nov 11th 2004, 5:38 pm

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Post by Nostradamus » Dec 2nd 2004, 7:37 pm

I don't remember if this has been mentioned here before, but the ICQ/e-mail pranks on somethingawful.com are along these lines and bloody hilarious.

http://www.somethingawful.com/spam/
I am just fixing their thought process by putting them in apple crates filled with spiders and rolling them down hills. Do you have a better idea??
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