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Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 1:36 pm
by pgh kenny
K-man wrote:SCLoon, you and I must be related. I can't gain lbs. either. Pure ectomorph I am.
Ditto, my BMI score tells me I could stand to gain a few pounds. I've been able to gain a few pounds between college and 28 years old... but the college years were awful. They don't make sylish cloths for college guys with 28 to 29 inch waists. Shopping in the young boys section at Sears does not exactly boost one's ego when you are in college.

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 3:22 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
I had insanely fast metabolism for ages - when I was in high school my doctor kept asking if I was eating enough. Once I told her that my daily intake consisted of a bean burrito (and we're talking a full size tortilla full of beans, not the Taco Bell kind!) at 9:30am, a full school lunch (entree, french fries, salad, milk) at 11:30am, an afterschool "snack" (usually a bowl of pasta with sauce or a bowl of whatever was left over from last night's dinner like rice, steak, etc) at 3pm, dinner at my mother's insistence at 5pm (and my mom's definition of dinner required a heap o' meat, a heap o' starch, and a heap o' vegetables plus at least one glass of milk which my sisters and I made palatable by adding a pint of ice cream to each glass for homemade milkshakes), and then whatever people food people forced on me later that night at various rehearsals (usually boys insisting I was too skinny and shoving fast food down my throat) - the doctor said it was okay that I weight 100 pounds.

I was actually up to 110 when I got mono. I also had a nasty virus that caused me to puke up everything I ate, so I got to experience a quasi-eating disorder. I got to the point where I KNEW I would throw up so it was better to eat more and avoid that disgusting stomach acid taste. I got good at picking out what kind of foods weren't terribly uncomfortable on their journey back up. Cream of chicken soup was great - no lumps, no tart tastes. Disgusting, I know, but this was how sick I was. I also got to the point where I would make food and think that I might as well eat the whole thing since I was just going to puke it back up anyway. Anyway, between the mono and the virus, I went back down below 100 pounds. Luckily the so-called freshman 15 put some weight on me.

I never thought I would be so glad to gain weight, by my mom kept telling me how thin my arms and face were. She would cluck over my skinny wrists and my gaunt cheekbones, but she saw how much I ate so there wasn't much either of us could do. After the initial freshman weight gain, I stayed steady at 110 for years. It was only last year that I started gaining weight. Well, I don't actually have a scale so I couldn't tell you how much weight I have gained. All I can tell you is that my old pants don't fit anymore! That was my motivation for going to yoga and sweating like a pig. :wink:

Kenny, if it makes you feel any better, my dad STILL has to buy his pants in the young boys section at Sears.

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 4:25 pm
by K-man
IMHO it's all what you're born with. My folks are thin so their child is too I guess. Candygirl, your tales of eating to try and gain stir up some all too personal memories for me. After being the skinny-frail kid all my life, and being pummeled by whiskered bullies and thugs throughout junior-high and high school, I (somehow) came to the conclusion that muscles were the answer to my problems. Yes sir; another 20 lbs of well sculpted beef and those goons were sure to think twice before trying to throw me in another dumpster. To get back on topic, part of the muscle building equation for the underdeveloped teen involves lots of heavy lifting and eating everything that doesn't bite back (or so I thought). So for a period of about 10 years I must have eaten at least 5 meals a day. Cramming food down my already full gullet according to the clock not wether or not I was hungry. I used to go to the 7-11 and get a quart of Ben and Jerry's at 10 at night and (my own personal system) would microwave cook it for like a minute and 15 seconds and basically drink it. Thats like 40 grams of pure FAT! Then I would go to bed and sleep for like 10 hours. I remember one night they had a 2 for price of 1 sale on B and J's so I got two quarts and drank them both right then and there. Mmmmmmm! :D Nothing like a quick 80 grams of fat to bring on the slumber! My point is, other than turning into a complete glutton, and beating myself to pieces in the gym, I never put on more than about 5 lbs. :( Still weak and scrawny.

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 4:36 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
OMG you DRANK B&J?! I see the seriousness of your story, but the thought of you tipping back a carton of ice cream and chugging it just made me crack up! I am still in a state of disbelief - TWO at once? Wow.

Since I DID just watch "The Zit" over the weekend, I can say with all certainty that it takes a long time to become comfortable with your body and to accept it just as it is instead of comparing it to everyone else's. That is the gift of maturity. Like Patty, I wish I had been able to enjoy it when I was younger. Now my attitude is much healthier - instead of looking at stupid magazines like Cosmo and scrutinizing all the photobrushed girls, I think about how I can eat whatever I want without worrying that I'll lose my job.

I also realized that we use our appearance to get attention and approval. I mean, let's be honest - even people who you are friends with (not romantically involved with) were judged by their appearances initially. In college I realized that anyone who wouldn't approach me or didn't want to be friends with me because of the way I looked was someone I didn't want to be friends with anyway. And I wasn't just rationalizing!! :wink:

Not to go off on a complete feminist tear, but we are so conditioned to believe in impossible standards of beauty that make if very difficult for us to accept and love ourselves. It's a beautiful day when you can look at yourself in the mirror and not want to change a thing. But I'm not advocating a high fat/low exercise regime! Wanting to be healthy is different from wanting to be thin or bulked up. If you love yourself, you want your body to last which means taking care of it with proper nutrition and exercise.

Uhhhh, wow the view from the top of my soapbox is great! Okay, I'm climbing down now.

:D

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 4:37 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
I would like to add that I do so enjoy these mini-rants so much more than complaining about the DVDs!

:)

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 5:12 pm
by K-man
Unfortunately, my current job prevents me from posting 'real-time' here in the forum. I agree with you though; mini-rants/conversations are lots of fun. Me and PGHKenny and Fnordboy had a good one going on Friday last week discussing The Dead Milkmen and They Might Be Giants but I had to bail early 'cause the boss strolled by. :(

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 5:15 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
Damn those bosses!

They're all like, "Hello? You're at WORK!" and then you're all like, "Whatever!" and they're all like, "I don't THINK so!"

:wink:

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 5:18 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
Talk about timing - I was checking my email and saw the link to this article: http://love.msn.com/men/article2.asp

The opening line is great!

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 5:39 pm
by K-man
To be honest my odyssey into the world of iron and steel was not about Narcissism or vanity but in a very real sense out of self-preservation. The small town/school system I grew up in was basically a Cave-Man type society. The big and strong took from the small and weak (me). I guess I figured if I could somehow become one of the big and strong or at least bigger and stronger, I'd have a better chance at survival. :(

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 8:12 pm
by pgh kenny
I used to try to hide MSCL.com from my boss, but I don't bother anymore. Some of my coworkers seem to have trouble just showing up to work so i don't even feel guilty. it's amazing what some people can get away with.

Drinking B & J ice cream... wow!

I learn so much more in the off-topic forum than I ever did in the dvd forum.

all I learned in the DVD forum is that AU sucks!

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 8:24 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
pgh_kenny wrote:I learn so much more in the off-topic forum than I ever did in the dvd forum.
I agree - the off topic sections are usually my favorite part of most forums. Maybe I'm just a nosy person (okay, I AM a nosy person) but I like learning about people's likes, dislikes, or forays into microwaving cartons of B&J much more than people talking about how much they hate AU for the bazillionth time. Don't get me wrong - AU is definitely on my s**t list too, but it's nice to talk about something else!

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 8:41 pm
by pgh kenny
As hard as I try to stay away, sometimes I can't resist interjecting my opinion into the dvd forum. I'm a nosy person too. I've got well above average hearing, so I get to find out about all kinds of fun stuff at work.

Man, i just looked under my name on some of my previous posts and I couldn't believe it... "Age: 28". I don't feel like I've lived for 28 years!

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 8:56 pm
by lance
Candygirl, pgh_kenny, alll:

Also nosy, also like good rants. Still figuring out what 31 is all about and I am almost 32 :) In high school I was an introvert. A couple of years out of college I decided I had enough and decided to become an extrovert. Didn't necessarily have the looks but had the desire.

I love coming to this forum and chating about all kinds of stuff with people here. I don't necessarity agree all the time with everything posted but it is a great deal of fun. As you may have noticed I post mostly in the evenings (Eastern Standard Time). I work at a public library here in Cincinnati. As part of my job we encouraged to surf the web and even e-mail. Chat rooms and postings in forum sites are a frowned upon. So I read everyone's posts with great interest until I get home from work, school or the gym. If I take a while to get back to any of you, I am not ignoring you I am probably at work.

All the best,

Lance Man :)

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 9:10 pm
by Natasha (candygirl)
pgh_kenny wrote:As hard as I try to stay away, sometimes I can't resist interjecting my opinion into the dvd forum.
Me too, me too! (like you hadn't already noticed that!)

:D

Posted: Nov 11th 2002, 10:38 pm
by Guest
candygirl wrote:
pgh_kenny wrote:As hard as I try to stay away, sometimes I can't resist interjecting my opinion into the dvd forum.
Me too, me too! (like you hadn't already noticed that!)

:D
we're mscl.com 'townies'

lance... how do you have the energy for school? i have just enough energy for gym and work and then my 28 year old body says "NO MORE... must veg out.