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i think that part of wha upset angela about th epoll (other than th eobvious question of whether or not boys find her attractive and noticeable) is this: the poll is potentially upsetting and insulting, it labels people and judges them. but, it also gives them an identity (i guess i've been thinking...

megs, nostradamus, tomspeed -- i, too, agree with the notion that everyone out there is going through self-discovery, learning how to be themselves, and hopefully the best version of themselves.... i think that the e.e. cummings quote was a perfect choice. i do, however, think that it's significant,...

i think that jordan is a bit of a mystery and may remain that way to all of us. i think BF makes the point that we all can see both possibilities in jordan. that he is a selfish jerk, AND that he is a sweet lost puppy type. we do not get the advantage of hearing his inner monologue like we do with m...

ABOUT CHEERLEADERS candygirl - i agree with you that cheerleaders are not all the same. some are smart some are not so smart, most are very athletic and there's no way for us to know what someone is like just because he or she is a cheerleader. i think the cheerleader crying in the first episode is ...

COMPARING INSTRUMENTS... tee hee i remember in high school that our orchestra teacher was going to be cut before our band teacher when funding was low. i would not be surprised if the school could not accomodate both a band and an orchestra. maybe brian (and sharon?) would have chosen other instrume...

ABOUT BRIAN AND JORDAN AND WHAT I SAID ABOUT THEIR FEELINSG FOR ANGELA i am not trying to make any big assumptions about how deep either of these two guys are. i would not be surprised if they both have tons of sexual fantasies about anything and everything that seems female. what i meant about my a...

tomspeed and others who have talked about "the game..the big away game.": i think that both angela and rayanne are being a little facetious here. whether or not they like football, they are both referencing the fact that football and MEETING at the football game are two very different things. they a...

something kind of great about both brian and jordan.... you know in self-esteem how the sonnet relates to both bri and jordan and it explains to us and to them how they could both be in love with angela without really having a concrete physical list? they just think she's special, and real, and inte...

tomspeed - you are prob. right that kyle does a fine job at explaining his attraction to sharon, esp. for a 15yr old. it's just that i can see how sharon will soon need more than kyle... someone more challenging and a little deeper, and i believe that his speech is indicative of that. angela does lo...

BRIAN brian's role in this episode clues us in just a bit to how much bri probably thinks about girls and sex. i mean, we could assume as such because he's a teenager, but i like the little moments in this episode such as: - he doesn't CONDONE the poll, but he understands the motivation behind it -h...

SHARON okay, i associate myself with both sharon and angela in this episode. sharon because of the global endowments and angela because of how she feels in relation to patty and also that she feels invisible at times. i LOVE that sharon calls kyle out on his friends making the poll. it shows that sh...

the zit is one of my favorite episodes, though i hate the title. i have always thought that this ep should be called "self-esteem." BRIAN AND RICKIE the conversation between rickie and brian about people pairing off is priceless!! they really begin to show signs of a true friendship here. it's also ...

you are right, tomspeed. i think that the fact that mscl had such a variety of central characters made it appeal to a wider audience. i also think that patty and graham specifically are very important to the show because the give us a context (i.e. "stuff" instead of vacuum) in which to put what we ...

sketchers! that's the brand! i was sitting at my desk at work trying to think of that brand. sorry about the mental block.
i'm on the look-out for other products.

tomspeed - thanks so much for sharing your story. i think you are right about development of self and identity and about that has everything to do iwth pushing parents off of pedestals and risking argument/disagreement, what-have-you. i think we've all sort of agreed in one way or another that mscl ...